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Post by THE Soccergalaxy on Sept 21, 2008 19:17:47 GMT
Thoughts, feelings?
If this thread spawns debate I'll add my input later.
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Post by BigFake on Sept 21, 2008 23:18:57 GMT
Personally, I think abortions should only be allowed in special circumstances. Either that its deemed that the baby will not be well enough when birthed and would suffer tremendously, or there is a high chance of the mother dying during birth. The second one is a bit controversial, but I stand by it.
Personally, I don't think 'not wanting one' is reason enough. The baby could be given to a family that can't produce one.
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Post by fairysky on Sept 22, 2008 7:50:30 GMT
Personally, I think abortions should only be allowed in special circumstances. Either that its deemed that the baby will not be well enough when birthed and would suffer tremendously, or there is a high chance of the mother dying during birth. The second one is a bit controversial, but I stand by it. Personally, I don't think 'not wanting one' is reason enough. The baby could be given to a family that can't produce one. Wow...there is very little point me posting anything since that is my exact view point of abortion. |
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Post by THE Soccergalaxy on Sept 22, 2008 19:53:41 GMT
Personally, I think abortions should only be allowed in special circumstances. Either that its deemed that the baby will not be well enough when birthed and would suffer tremendously, or there is a high chance of the mother dying during birth. The second one is a bit controversial, but I stand by it. Personally, I don't think 'not wanting one' is reason enough. The baby could be given to a family that can't produce one. Wow...there is very little point me posting anything since that is my exact view point of abortion. Well the adoption thing is kinda not true. Most of those put up for adoption are sent from foster home to foster home, some of which are horror stories in the making. |
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Post by fraserb on Sept 22, 2008 21:29:38 GMT
I'm 100% pro choice. If I was a female I wouldn't want to go through child birth only to give my kid away to someone.
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Post by BigFake on Sept 22, 2008 21:31:27 GMT
I'm 100% pro choice. If I was a female I wouldn't want to go through child birth only to give my kid away to someone. Wouldn'tbirth control be the way forward then? (Welcome aboard Fraser, btw!) |
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Post by THE Soccergalaxy on Sept 22, 2008 21:33:28 GMT
I'm 100% pro choice. If I was a female I wouldn't want to go through child birth only to give my kid away to someone. Wouldn'tbirth control be the way forward then? (Welcome aboard Fraser, btw!) Abortion is birth control. A fetus really isn't much more alive than a sperm is and I hardly see activists wanting to outlaw masturbation. |
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Post by BigFake on Sept 22, 2008 21:38:32 GMT
Abortion is birth control. Well I suppose. But couldn't they take further steps to ensure they don't become pregnant in the first place, providing they don't want it? A fetus really isn't much more alive than a sperm is It is when it develops a heartbeat. and I hardly see activists wanting to outlaw masturbation. Well no, but I have seen it happen. |
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Post by THE Soccergalaxy on Sept 22, 2008 22:18:11 GMT
Abortion is birth control. Well I suppose. But couldn't they take further steps to ensure they don't become pregnant in the first place, providing they don't want it? It is when it develops a heartbeat. and I hardly see activists wanting to outlaw masturbation. Well no, but I have seen it happen. Condoms break, the pill is only so effective. What else do you want them to do? |
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Post by fooze on Sept 23, 2008 0:00:23 GMT
I believe in life at conception, and strongly pro-life. an impregnated egg has a completely different genetic makeup than an individual sperm cell or egg, and a heartbeat is noticeable at around 4 weeks after conception. Well I suppose. But couldn't they take further steps to ensure they don't become pregnant in the first place, providing they don't want it? It is when it develops a heartbeat. Well no, but I have seen it happen. Condoms break, the pill is only so effective. What else do you want them to do? Pull out? you could make a game out of it by doing target practice on your partner. eye- 10 points nose-15 ear-5 mouth- 20 |
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Post by Geoshi on Sept 23, 2008 19:31:24 GMT
From experience of abortion, it really brings the best out of guys who don't want it. I mean, I didn't even bother to take the girl to the clinic, I made it look like she was the badguy (well in the end she was, wasn't my kid). Either way...
I'm gonna agree with BigFake and fairysky; it would depend on the circumstance and if the parents (be it together or not) are deemed certified. Then again, you could argue even if the mom or dad isn't fit, they still have the right to try.
I'm really on the fence, but moreso towards the circumstances of the situation.
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Post by THE Soccergalaxy on Sept 23, 2008 19:59:59 GMT
Alright, here's another question. Since many are against having abortions because they don't want the kids, should there be a law against it, or should abortion be legal?
Here's my point, I'd never want a woman carrying my kid to abort it. I do believe it is a personal choice however, and I don't think a politician has any right to tell someone how to live their life.
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Post by Geoshi on Sept 23, 2008 20:02:46 GMT
Well in Alberta, abortion is legal, but it should be for people who are 18 or older, who know what they're doing. Anyone under, should be law have birth, then give the baby to a family who can't have one, and who is probabaly responsible enough to take care of it. Yes it sounds crewl, if even mean, but hey that's how I see it.
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Post by fairysky on Sept 23, 2008 20:40:30 GMT
I don't think abortion should be made illegal, and I'd never judge someone who had one. But that wouldn't stop me from thinking that it's wrong. I also wish fathers could have more say in whether the girl has a abortion or not.
I don't know how many cases there are, but you do hear that woman have an abortion yet the man wants to bring up the child. I know the woman carries the child for 9 months, but what is that to a life time of support. A man obviously can't have a biological child without a woman, yet they make just as good parents, so I feel they should have more of a deciding factor.
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Post by BigFake on Sept 23, 2008 22:46:05 GMT
Since many are against having abortions because they don't want the kids, should there be a law against it, or should abortion be legal? Here's the thing. I might not agree with abortion, but to take away the right is a step backwards for democracy. Another good reason to keep it legal is that if the mother really doesn't want the kid, it's not impossible for them to pay for an underhand, dangerous method of aborting, so to have it legal and safe is a good option, in a way. |
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